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Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM
From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 03:18:15 +0000
On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com<mailto:mysidia () gmail com>> wrote: On Tuesday, April 30, 2013, John Curran wrote: On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:46 AM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com<javascript:;>> wrote:
On 4/29/13, John Curran <jcurran () arin net<javascript:;>> wrote:On Apr 29, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Lee Howard <lee () asgard org<javascript:;>> wrote:On 4/29/13 1:03 AM, "Jérôme Nicolle" <jerome () ceriz fr<javascript:;>> wrote:specified (based on being singly-homed or multi-homed.) These same criteria now apply to receipt of an address block via transfer, so at regional IPv4 free pool depletion may be _very_ difficult to satisfy.Huh? Where did that concept come from?
Alas, NRPM 8.3 requires that "the recipient must demonstrate the need for up to a 24-month supply of IP address resources _under current ARIN policies_ ..." This says demonstrate the need for resources. The "under current policies" bit is redundant, because the transfer policy is referring to itself. Of course the current policies always apply; so this is some strange infinitely recursive oddity. Jimmy - Actually, I'm quite confident in the interpretation... Note that the reading that this language would require qualification under current IPv4 allocation policies was also confirmed in the Staff Assessment when the proposed NRPM 8.3 language was under consideration as a draft policy - <http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-August/022870.html> It is easy enough to change if desired (and apparently some folks are looking at doing that per any earlier reply on this thread) but as it stands there is a chance that ISPs seeking to obtain IPv4 space from the transfer market will not be able to participate if they haven't made use of provider-assigned space first. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Current thread:
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Jimmy Hess (Apr 30)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (Apr 30)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 30)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Jimmy Hess (Apr 30)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Matthew Kaufman (May 01)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (May 01)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (May 01)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Jimmy Hess (Apr 30)