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Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM


From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 03:18:15 +0000

On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com<mailto:mysidia () gmail com>> wrote:

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013, John Curran wrote:
On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:46 AM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com<javascript:;>> wrote:

On 4/29/13, John Curran <jcurran () arin net<javascript:;>> wrote:
On Apr 29, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Lee Howard <lee () asgard org<javascript:;>> wrote:
On 4/29/13 1:03 AM, "Jérôme Nicolle" <jerome () ceriz fr<javascript:;>> wrote:
specified (based on being singly-homed or multi-homed.)  These same
criteria now apply to receipt of an address block via transfer, so at
regional IPv4 free pool depletion may be _very_ difficult to satisfy.

Huh?  Where did that concept come from?

Alas, NRPM 8.3 requires that "the recipient must demonstrate the need for up
to a 24-month supply of IP address resources _under current ARIN policies_ ..."

This says demonstrate the need for resources.
The "under current policies" bit is redundant, because the transfer policy is referring to itself. Of course the 
current policies always apply; so this is some strange infinitely recursive oddity.

Jimmy -

  Actually, I'm quite confident in the interpretation...  Note that the reading that this language
  would require qualification under current IPv4 allocation policies was also confirmed in the
  Staff Assessment when the proposed NRPM 8.3 language was under consideration as a
  draft policy - <http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-August/022870.html>

  It is easy enough to change if desired (and apparently some folks are looking at doing that
  per any earlier reply on this thread) but as it stands there is a chance  that ISPs seeking to
  obtain IPv4 space from the transfer market will not be able to participate if they haven't made
  use of provider-assigned space first.

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN




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