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Re: Cloudflare, and the 120Gbps DDOS "that almost broke the Internet"


From: Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:46:05 +0000

Wasn't there a ton of drama with the SpamHaus guys a year or so ago
regarding RBL's on NANOG?



On 3/27/13 2:54 PM, "Scott Weeks" <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote:


--- bill () herrin us wrote:
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>

According to the New York Times it was 300 gbps and Cyberbunker was the
bad guy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/27/technology/internet/online-dispute-becom
es-internet-snarling-attack.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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I found it using startpage.com's proxy and pasted it below for
others that don't want to create accounts and all:


A squabble between a group fighting spam and a Dutch company that hosts
Web sites said to be sending spam has escalated into one of the largest
computer attacks on the Internet, causing widespread congestion and
jamming crucial infrastructure around the world, John Markoff and Nicole
Perlroth write on Wednesday in The New York Times.

Millions of ordinary Internet users have experienced delays in services
like Netflix or could not reach a particular Web site for a short time.
However, for the Internet engineers who run the global network, the
problem is more worrisome. The attacks are becoming increasingly
powerful, and computer security experts worry that if they continue to
escalate, people may not be able to reach basic Internet services, like
e-mail and online banking.

The dispute started when the spam-fighting group, called Spamhaus, added
the Dutch company Cyberbunker to its blacklist, which is used by e-mail
providers to weed out spam. Cyberbunker, named for its headquarters, a
five-story former NATO bunker, offers hosting services to any Web site
³except child porn and anything related to terrorism,² according to its
Web site.

A spokesman for Spamhaus, which is based in Europe, said the attacks
began on March 19, but had not stopped the group from distributing its
blacklist.

Patrick Gilmore, chief architect at Akamai Networks, a digital content
provider, said Spamhaus¹s role was to generate a list of Internet
spammers. Of Cyberbunker, he added: ³These guys are just mad. To be
frank, they got caught. They think they should be allowed to spam.²

Mr. Gilmore said that the attacks, which are generated by swarms of
computers called botnets, concentrate data streams that are larger than
the Internet connections of entire countries. He likened the technique,
which uses a long-known flaw in the Internet¹s basic plumbing, to using a
machine gun to spray an entire crowd when the intent is to kill one
person. The so-called distributed denial of service, or DDoS, attacks
have reached previously unknown magnitudes, growing to a data stream of
300 billion bits per second.

Questioned about the attacks, Sven Olaf Kamphuis, an Internet activist
who said he was a spokesman for the attackers, said in an online message
that, ³We are aware that this is one of the largest DDoS attacks the
world had publicly seen.² Mr. Kamphuis said Cyberbunker was retaliating
against Spamhaus for ³abusing their influence.²


scott




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