Re: Last mile multihoming

[Nick Zurku <Nick () nzurku com>]

SOHO failover would be significantly easier if you had a VPN server in a
datacenter, and setup something like pfSense to connect to the VPN over one
or many ISP connections.

You really could just buy 2-3 local ISP connections, and let the VPN tunnel
reestablish in the event of an outage (under a second, usually, states and
connections preserved). I am unsure of bonding all those VPN connections at
the same time, but I imagine there is a method to do that.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Charles Wyble <
charles-lists () knownelement com> wrote:

> So isnt the most likely interruption to service due to a last mile
> physical media issue?  Or say a regional fiber cut that takes out the
> towers you can reach and the upstream connection from your cable and telco
> providers? Imo at the edge, BGP mostly protects you from layer 8 fail  (if
> youve done some basic best practice configuration). In theory, issues below
> that (at least in the dist/core at l1 to 3) are handled by other redundancy
> protections hidden from you (hsrp, fiber ring with protected path etc).
>
> As for dfz explosion, would mpls/private as/ vrf be a workable approach
> for bgp at the edge?
>
> So I live in Austin. I have available to me two hfc providers (grande and
> twc) and att. I also have sprint/clear vzw/tmo. I havent done an analysis
> of wisp offerings (if any are on list, please email me at
> charles () thefnf org as im looking for a non ilec path for redunancy).
>
> So lets break this down:
>
> I only know of one att co in town. (Im sure if there is more, you will let
> me know). So the chances of that failing are decently high. Also my
> experience with att dsl have been mixed, unless im homed direct to the co.
> Vz dsl otoh has always been rock solid. Also att is retiring dsl/copper. I
> refuse to use uverse as they dont offer a unbundled modem/router or a way
> to do bridge mode. Oh and no ipv6. (If you can put a modem in bridge mode
> and still have working tv, please let me know. Ive not been able to find a
> solution).
>
> The chances of someone driving into the dslam serving my complex or the
> pedastal down the street is high (100% as it has happend a couple times).
>
> So this means I need a wireless backhaul. All of the providers I can reach
> colocate on exactly one tower. Surrounded by a chain link fence, across
> from a walmart. (Im in north austin near cameron and 183 for anyone who
> lives in town). The chances of the fiber serving that tower being cut is
> unknown, but not outside the realm of possibility. Or say the walmart big
> rig over correcting due to a driver coming around the blind curve near
> there and plowing into thr tower. Etc.
>
> So my best bet for uninterrupted connectivity seems to be running two
> openvpn tunels on my home edge pfsense router, each to a endpoint in a colo.
>
> I already have a full rack of gear in joesdatacenter in kc, and its fully
> redundant. I also run all of my web/mail/software dev from there, so its
> not soley for bgp purposes. Most folks I imagine may have their stuff in a
> colo as well and not want to run that at home. (I started a thread on that
> once upon a time). It so happens, that I have various things which I cant
> run there (rf equipment which I need to frequently reflash and move
> around). So running bgp on my colo gear and announcing a /48 that ive
> assigned to my house seems like a good idea. And I can easily cross connect
> to kcix and have lots of bgp fun. The latency would be a bit high, but it
> already is and I dont have any redundant connectivitym
>
> Ok. So thats great. Now who is my secondary? Is a vps at say linode
> sufficient for a secondary bgp announcer? Will they sell me bgp enabled
> transit? Will other vps providers?  Do I need a box in a rack at a local
> nap? Is there an ix in austin, or should I rack a box in Dallas?
>
> Once i have two providerdls, then i can easily use pfsense multi wan
> failover and if a circuit goes down, life goes on as I rely on bgp to
> detect the link failure and handle it. Yes? No? Maybe?
>
> So to me, this seems like a solved problem. Run multilple diverse
> (carrier, media type) circuits to your edge, put a pfsense (asa, whatever
> is your poison but i like pfsense the best for multi wan failover), openvpn
> (i cant stand ipsec) to colo, cross connect to ... oh I dunno he.net :)
> bgp for free. Done.
>
> For about... hmmm.. 500.00 a month? (Many colos might not do bgp with you
> for less then a quarter rack, and I presume anyone serious enough about
> uninterrupted service on a reasonable budget can do 500.00 a month).
>
> Thie discussion on soho multihoming has been fascinating to me, and I
> wanted to go through a thought exercise for what I imagine is a common
> scenario (main gear in a bgp enabled sp,  office gear needing to be
> reachable by remote personnel in a non bgp enabled sp).
>
> Would love to hear what you folks think.
>
>
>
> --
> Charles Wyble
> charles () thefnf org / 818 280 7059
> CTO Free Network Foundation (www.thefnf.org)