Re: Open Resolver Problems

[Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>]

On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Alain Hebert <ahebert () pubnix net> wrote:

>    Well,
>
> On 03/25/13 16:45, Jared Mauch wrote:
> > On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jared Mauch" <jared () puck nether net>
> > > > Open resolvers pose a security threat.
> > > Could you clarify, here, Jared?
> > >
> > > Do "open DNS customer-resolver/recursive servers" *per se* cause a problem?
> > >
> > > Or is it merely "customer zone servers which are misconfigured to recurse",
> > > as has always been problematic?
> > >
> > > That is: is this just a reminder we never closed the old hole, or 
> > > notification of some new and much nastier hole?
> > There have been some moderate size attacks recently that I won't go into detail here about.  The IPs that are on the 
> > website are certainly being used/abused.  A recent attack saw a 90% match rate against the "master list" here.  This 
> > means your open resolver is likely being used.
> >
> > Anything to raise the bar here will minimize the impact to those networks under attack.  Turn on RPF facing your 
> > colocation and high-speed server lans.  We all know hosts become compromised.  Help minimize the impact of these 
> > attacks by 
> >
> > a) doing BCP-38
> > b) locking down your recursive servers to networks you control
> > c) locking down your authority servers to not provide the same answer 15x in a second to the same querying IP.  If 
> > it's asking that same question 15x, then it's not you that's broken, it's that client.  (Or it's being abused).
> >
> > - Jared
>
>    I think most of the audience here knows and are sensitive about it.
>
>    The problems come from from those who don't give a *shit*... And
> they've been not giving a *shit* it for years.
>
>    The magic is in "how" to make them care

If this started to move into an AUP violation direction (e.g.: ala spammers, etc) would that motivate people?

>    Do the industry need to go "a la PCI-DSS" for Peers?

I think that any effort we can take here to help educate people to the right standards is helpful.  I'd like to see 
people fix hosts, routers and a number of other things.

>    PS: My pico ISP is soooo on your list Jared =D  Not for long hopefully.

Appreciated.  And many thanks for others that have emailed me saying their hosts have been fixed as well, and those 
that have emailed me updated text for the webpage.

- jared