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Re: Google's QUIC
From: "Octavio Alvarez" <alvarezp () alvarezp ods org>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:26:10 -0700
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:09:43 -0700, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/06/google-making-the-web-faster-with-protocol-that-reduces-round-trips/?comments=1Sorry if this is a little more on the dev side, and less on the ops side but sinceit's Google, it will almost certainly affect the ops side eventually.My first reaction to this was why not SCTP, but apparently they think that middle boxen/firewalls make it problematic. That may be, but UDP based port filtering isprobably not far behind on the flaky front.
Sounds like a UDP replacement. If this is true, then OS-level support will be needed. If they are on this, then it's the perfect opportunity to fix some other problems with the Internet in general. My reaction is: why, oh why, repeat the same mistake of merging everything on the transport layer and let the benefits be protocol-specific instead of separating the "transport" from "session". I mean, why not let redundancy and multipath stay on the transport layer through some kind of end-user transport (like the Host Identification Protocol, RFC 5201) and let a simpler TCP and UDP live on top of that, on the session layer. Streamline the protocols and separate their functionality. It's easier than it sounds. -- Octavio.
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- Re: Google's QUIC Octavio Alvarez (Jun 28)
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- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Octavio Alvarez (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Octavio Alvarez (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
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- Re: Google's QUIC Michael Thomas (Jun 29)
- Re: Google's QUIC Grzegorz Janoszka (Jun 29)
- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Josh Hoppes (Jun 28)