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Re: huawei (oscilloscopes and frequency analysis)


From: Phil Fagan <philfagan () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:31:37 -0600

now THAT would be a cool project!


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Jazz Kenny <trapperjohn117 () gmail com>wrote:

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Tony Patti <tony () swalter com> wrote:
Thanks, I liked your pointer to the SDR.

But can I ask you for a bit more info about your statement

"where oscilloscopes and frequency analysis is available to anyone with
some
Google-fu"

We don't need as much test equipment before?

(as a guy with an oscilloscope in his basement, I don't see how Google
can
do what that device can).



Thanks,

Tony

All I meant was that the tools are relatively accessible to anyone
with the desire to look - An oscilloscope with the necessary freq.
range to study 4G communications can be bought or fabricated (all
that's really needed is a microcontroller with an ADC, some gain amps
and time), an appropriate SDR to intercept the signals shouldn't be
too hard to source, and that community has been blowing up for a few
years now. Hell, there are even a couple examples of LGA 4G receivers
floating around in the wild (gtm801, for example). Ignoring all of
that, there are commercial options like the YellowFin 4G analyzer. No
idea how much one of those costs, though.

Now, like Jay said, there are the issues of encryption and such, but
that's just another barrier to entry. A little Google-fu could
probably source a paper dealing with its implementation, at least.

I doubt it would be easy, but if the motivation exists, the required
test bed is easily assembled, and the information is available. Not
like we're talking about intercepted military GPS bands or something.
It's a consumer device that can sit on a workbench and be tested at
the leisure of the security researcher.

- J.




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Phil Fagan
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970-480-7618


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