Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

[Mark Seiden <mis () seiden com>]

the palantir financial product named prism is useless for intelligence analysis. it's for
timeseries financial data.  my understanding is it's a completely different product, code base and market
from the connect-the-dots product they sell as a competitor to i2's Analyst's Notebook product.

"these are not the droids you're looking for"


On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com> wrote:

> Wink wink
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/07/startup-palantir-denies-its-prism-software-is-the-nsas-prism-surveillance-system/
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> Sent from my Mobile Device.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Jason L. Sparks" <jlsparks () gmail com>
> Date: 06/07/2013 1:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com>
> Cc: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>,NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
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> I assume the unclassified word "Prism" (which is found everywhere on IC resumes and open job descriptions) refers to 
> Palantir's Prism suite.  Could be wrong, but seems logical.
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> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com<mailto:wbailey () 
> satelliteintelligencegroup com>> wrote:
> Has anyone found out if this system is actually based on Narus? I associated this program as a super version of the 
> AT&T thing, and if I recall it was understood that was Narus and Co via NSA/FBI?
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> Sent from my Mobile Device.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com<mailto:jra () baylink com>>
> Date: 06/07/2013 12:16 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: NANOG <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>>
> Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu<mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu>>
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> > On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:57:07 -0700, Mark Seiden said:
> > > and also, only $20m/year? in my experience, the govt cannot do
> > > anything like this addressing even a single provider for that little money.
> >
> > Convince me the *real* number doesn't have another zero.
> >
> > Remember - the $20M number came from a source that has *very* good
> > reason to lie as much as it can right now about the true extent of this.
>
> Indeed.  Luckily, the press is all over this like a bad smell.
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> I mentioned The Story in a new posting just now; they have, surprisingly,
> already managed to dig at this spot, a pretty quick response for them:
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> http://www.thestory.org/stories/2013-06/americans-spying-americans
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> Cheers,
> -- jra
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