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Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 06:50:23 +0100 (CET)
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Randy Carpenter wrote:
My main requirements would be: 1. Something that is *not* network (ethernet or otherwise) (isn't that the point of OOB?)
I don't understand this at all. Why can't an OOB network be ethernet based towards the equipment needing management?
2. Something that is standard across everything, and can be aggregated easily onto a "console server" or the like
Yes, ethernet is the proposed management standard interface.
I don't really see what is wrong with with keeping the serial port as the standard.
Because it's slow and can't be multiplexed, and it's expensive, only does short distance (20 meters or so), uses different cabling, requires separate planning etc. There are lot of reasons to drop serial port support.
Things like servers and RAID cards and such are coming with "BIOS"es that are graphical and even require a mouse to use. What use is that when I need to get into the BIOS from a remote site that is completely down?
My email stated https was way down on the priorities, and ssh and telnet was the prime way of managing the OOB part.
It might be nice to have a "management-only" port of some sort to do more advanced things that serial cannot do, but the serial port is ubiquitous already, and I don't see any reason to remove it as the very low-level access method.
An ethernet port is generally a lot cheaper compared to a serial port. Your OOB network would consist of a switch or router with ethernet towards the equipment needing management.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- RE: OOB core router connectivity wish list, (continued)
- RE: OOB core router connectivity wish list Adam Vitkovsky (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Dobbins, Roland (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Dobbins, Roland (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Chris Adams (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Randy Carpenter (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Warren Bailey (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Randy Carpenter (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list William Herrin (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Randy Whitney (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Jared Mauch (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Steve Meuse (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Nick Hilliard (Jan 10)