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Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network
From: Chris Hindy <chindy () lwpca net>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:30:43 +0000
The property jumped on-board in the late nineties, putting in a system worthy of the next decade...
and has never updated it, cause it's "good enough".
This is more likely the root cause of this particular problemŠyou see a lot of crufty old access points in the big chains, at least in hotels that bought into wifi in the late 90's or early 2000's. These things are not optimized to their environments, and the environments they have to work in are pretty sucky for el-cheapo 2.4GHz radios to work in. I'm a Marriott fan, having spent at least 150 nights a year in the past three years under their sheets, and their Internet offerings range from pretty darned good (Marriott Alpharetta, newish, built in '08 or '09) to downright awful (Marriott IAD, I'm looking in your directionŠ) The correlation between "downright awful" and "installed early on in the cycle" is strong. Like others mention, I carry around a lightweight, portable, doesn't-take-up-much-space, was-ridiculously-cheap-at-a-Target-in-Chicago access point that I use when hotel wifi isn't up to snuff (Residence Inn North Loop, I'm looking in your directionŠ) -- it's cheap and easy and lets me get MLB TV on the iPad while on the road with little interruption. The point, which I've wandered away from a bit, is that a lot of these chains probably have put the wifi and network infrastructure on a ten year amortization schedule, and it's only recently wound down to $0. Hopefully that means they're going to start investing in new kit and generally improving stuff. My .02c-worth, -c On 26-02-2013 11:03 PM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra () baylink com> wrote:
---- Original Message -----From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com>[ quoting me ]Ironically, I suspect that it's for the same reason that East Germanyhasright up to the minute telephony services these days, while WestGerman isstill sucking hind tit: The big properties are, over all, likely to skew somewhat older in building construction, and because of that, they're not built/wired for the internal transport; too much rebar in the walls blocking wifi and stuff like that.A comment off list pointed out to me that sometimes, it's the reverse: The property jumped on-board in the late nineties, putting in a system worthy of the next decade... and has never updated it, cause it's "good enough". Cheers, -- jr 'sorry to hijack your post to quote myself, Owen' a -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
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- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Constantine A. Murenin (Feb 10)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Franck Martin (Feb 11)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Graham Donaldson (Feb 11)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jimmy Hess (Feb 16)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jeroen van Aart (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jay Ashworth (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jay Ashworth (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Constantine A. Murenin (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Chris Hindy (Feb 27)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jeff Kell (Feb 26)
- RE: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Nathan Anderson (Feb 26)
- Hotel internet connectivity Jay Ashworth (Feb 26)
- Re: Hotel internet connectivity Jeff Kell (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Randy (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Warren Bailey (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jared Mauch (Feb 27)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jay Ashworth (Feb 27)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 27)