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Re: Network security on multiple levels (was Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat)


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:39:09 -0800

If you have that option, I suppose that would be one way to solve it.

I, rather, see it as a reason to:
        1.      Cryptographically secure links that may be carrying private data.
        2.      Rotate cryptographic keys (relatively) often on such links.

YMMV, but I think encryption is a lot cheaper than building a telco. Especially
over long distances.

Owen

On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:33 , Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com> wrote:

Isn't this a strong argument to deploy and operate a network independent
of the traditional switch circuit provider space?

On 2/20/13 11:22 AM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra () baylink com> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com>

Many DACS have provision for "monitoring" circuits and feeding the
data off to a third circuit in an undetectable manner.

The DACS question wasn't about DACS owned by the people using the
circuit, it was about DACS inside the circuit provider. When you buy a
DS1 that goes through more than one CO in between two points, you're
virtually guaranteed that it goes through one or more of {DS-3 Mux,
Fiber Mux, DACS, etc.}. All of these are under the control of the
circuit provider and not you.

Correct, and they expand the attack surface in ways that even many
network engineers may not consider unless prompted.

Cheers,
-- jra
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