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Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:52:57 -0800
On Feb 18, 2013, at 3:07 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> wrote:
On 2/18/13 1:42 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:On Feb 17, 2013, at 21:12 , Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se> wrote:On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Owen DeLong wrote:Greater attenuation is an oversimplification.Along some dimensions sure, e.g. we have quite a lot of parameters we can fiddle with. With respect to an istropic raditor and the same power level it is not. It's about 6-7dB depending on which end of the bands we're comparing - e.g. friis trasmission equation.
Show me a wifi access point for 802.11n that uses an isotropic radiator and I'll consider that more relevant. (Yes, I'm aware that an isotropic radiator is useful as a baseline comparison because it eliminates antenna issues, near-field/far field issues, and a host of other complications. However, the purpose of an isotropic radiator is, at its core, the very definition of oversimplification because it is a theoretical antenna which removes all of the real world complexities. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has ever actually built an isotropic radiator, though there are a couple of very complex antennas that come a little closer than a ΒΌ wave whip.) Owen
Current thread:
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network, (continued)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network joel jaeggli (Feb 17)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 17)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Jay Ashworth (Feb 17)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network joel jaeggli (Feb 17)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 17)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 17)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 17)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 18)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network joel jaeggli (Feb 18)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- RE: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Frank Bulk (Feb 24)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 25)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Warren Bailey (Feb 25)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Owen DeLong (Feb 25)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Warren Bailey (Feb 25)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Rob Seastrom (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Warren Bailey (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Neil Harris (Feb 26)
- Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network joel jaeggli (Feb 25)
- RE: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network Frank Bulk (iname.com) (Feb 25)