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Re: Trivium


From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:29:38 -0700

I'm curious; do people really think that the difference in material
indexed between Google, Yahoo/Bing, and others is really that
big?  I don't mean the heuristics and algorithms used to return
the results in a particularly useful order; I mean the sheer raw
set of indexed pages.  I don't debate that Google found a
particularly useful page ranking system; but I question the
notion that the loss of Google was akin to the loss of your
root directory.

Matt




On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:

Without Google, how do you know where anything even *is*?

ask that to 20% of the world's population


Turning off  Google is essentially doing a  rm -rf  http://
www-wide analog to  rm -rf /    or  temporarily loss of the root directory,
pending a fsck.

The important stuff is still there, somewhere...  it's just becomes a real
chore to get to your files without a useful directory  provided by the
indexing system,  until you can get your superblock repaired.

Webcrawler, Gopher sites, and Archie search engine become viable options.


There's also backup on some stacks of tapes somewhere labelled  Bing, DMOZ,
Yahoo,  and a few other misc.  unlabelled stacks, various well-known .COM
and .EDU domains,  which  you could probably use to find your materials if
you downloaded the old Hosts.txt files;  if you look long and hard enough,
  you can still find the filesystem data you need to relink the directory
and get at the files you need;   it  can just be darn inconvenient  sorting
out all the spam.


randy


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-JH




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