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Re: RFC 1149


From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 23:20:07 -0400

Steve, would you post that on a webpage somewhere? :-)
- jra

Steven Bellovin <smb () cs columbia edu> wrote:


On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>

DLT? I first heard it as a station wagon full of (9-track, 1600 bpi,
that having been the state of the art) mag tapes on the Taconic
Parkway,
circa 1970. I suspect, though, that Herman Hollerith expressed the
idea
about a stage coach full of punchcards, back in the 1880s.

The earliest reference to this I've been able to pin down is Andy
Tanenbaum's,
and TTBOMK -- and you of all people should know this, Steve -- he was
talking
about Usenet, which a few sites actually *got feeds of on magtape*,
in the
very early 80s.  Some of those tapes, in addition to UTZoo's backups
of their
spool, constituted the very earliest material given to Dejagoo.

Yes, I know that story.  I'm talking what was said to me personally --
not
hearsay, earwitness evidence.  The road mentioned was the Taconic
Parkway, part
of the direct route between where I was working at the time (IBM Watson
Lab #2,
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/watsonlab.html) and IBM
Yorktown --
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=612+West+115th+Street,+New+York,+NY&daddr=ibm+watson+labs,+yorktown,+ny&hl=en&ll=41.027571,-73.66745&spn=0.872312,0.95993&sll=40.807717,-73.965464&sspn=0.013675,0.014999&geocode=FSWtbgIdaGCX-ylpY-dMOfbCiTEUPDIPtH_nMw%3BFfTUdAIdCtuZ-yF0j-k3CpyMSikvG-JPT7jCiTF0j-k3CpyMSg&mra=ls&t=m&z=10
The context was the speed of an RJE link between the IBM 1130 I was
running
(http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/1130.html) and a mainframe
in Yorktown.  (If memory serves, it was a 2400 bps half-duplex link,
probably
via a Bell 201 "data set".  I don't remember for sure, though.  Anyway,
that
was my first contact with networking, though I worried more about the
host part of it.  I did learn bisync rather thoroughly in my next gig,
at City College of New York Computer Center, at that time the central
computing hub for the entire City University system.)


              --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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