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RE: Big Temporary Networks
From: "Tony Hain" <alh-ietf () tndh net>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:38:52 -0700
-----Original Message----- From: Masataka Ohta [mailto:mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:21 PM To: David Miller Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Big Temporary Networks David Miller wrote:So, a single example of IPv4 behaving in a suboptimal manner would be enough to declare IPv4 not operational?For example?
Your own example ---
-----Original Message----- From: Masataka Ohta [mailto:mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:26 AM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Big Temporary Networks ... that a very crowded train arrives at a station and all the smart
phones of passengers try to connect to APs ... IPv4 has a train load of devices unicasting and retransmitting all the dropped packets, where an IPv6 multicast RA allows all the devices to configure based on reception of a single packet. Therefore IPv4 is "suboptimal" in its abuse of the air link which could have been used for real application traffic instead of being wasted on device configuration. Thus by extension using your logic it is not operational. Just because you personally want IPv6 to be nothing more than IPv4 in every aspect is no reason to troll the nanog list and create confusion that causes others to delay their IPv6 deployment. Your complaints about IPv6 behavior on wifi ignore the point that IPv6 ND behavior was defined before or in parallel as wifi was defined by a different committee. There will always be newer L2 technologies that arrive after an L3 protocol is defined, and the behavior of the L3 will be 'suboptimal' for the new L2. When the issue is serious enough to warrant documentation, addendum documents are issued. When it is simply a matter of personal preference, it is hard to get enough support to get those documents published. Tony
Current thread:
- Re: Big Temporary Networks, (continued)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks TJ (Sep 19)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Masataka Ohta (Sep 19)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks William Herrin (Sep 19)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Masataka Ohta (Sep 19)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks TJ (Sep 19)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Masataka Ohta (Sep 19)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks David Miller (Sep 19)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Masataka Ohta (Sep 19)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks TJ (Sep 20)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Masataka Ohta (Sep 20)
- RE: Big Temporary Networks Tony Hain (Sep 20)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Masataka Ohta (Sep 20)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks William Herrin (Sep 21)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Masataka Ohta (Sep 21)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks William Herrin (Sep 21)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Masataka Ohta (Sep 22)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks JÁKÓ András (Sep 23)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks William Herrin (Sep 23)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks JÁKÓ András (Sep 24)
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- Re: Big Temporary Networks Måns Nilsson (Sep 16)
- Re: Big Temporary Networks Måns Nilsson (Sep 14)