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Re: Tech for blocking particular YouTube video - Wired.com question


From: JP Viljoen <froztbyte () froztbyte net>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:20:32 +0200

On 23 Oct 2012, at 11:52 PM, Ryan Singel <ryan () ryansingel net> wrote:
A colleague is working on a story that a particular country not to be named
implemented technology to block a particular infamous riot-inducing video
for a certain section of its populace.

The questions are: 1) how hard is this to do at scale, 2) does it require
DPI equipment and 3) is there a way to prove, from an end node, that it's
happening?

Challenge number one, push all your HTTP through one specific place. Not that hard. Choke all your traffic via a single 
routed path, WCCP or whatever it off from there. Just need equipment that can handle it. I'm going to make a slight 
assumption here on the level of traffic required, since it's likely not /that/ much in those warring regions. But if 
you need more traffic, you may exceed device limits, and then you might run into interesting state sharing issues on 
async routing (if the traffic out goes over one router (thus one cache), and back via another router/cache combo). If 
you have enough budget, it's doable.

On question 2) I'd guess only if people were tunnelling HTTPS in normal HTTP. You could block HTTPS at port level, 
which would make YouTube (in normal operation) only be available over HTTP. You'd need tunnelling of whatever sort to 
get around this.

3) …possibly. I would hazard to say it'd depend on how they're going about blocking in.

To get back to 1: the moment you choke all the traffic through WCCP, you can hand it off to application servers that 
you maintain, and on those app servers you can then do whatever you like. This is how lots of 
semi-transparent/transparent caching is implemented.

If you need more info, feel free to mail me directly.

-J

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