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Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed


From: "Carlos M. Perez" <cperez () runcentral com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:31:20 -0400

Suresh,

The affected domains have never been on hotmail, etc.  We've actually
held this domain/hosting for the past 14+ years on this particular
domain.  Yes, there is an RFC violation, and it's apparently due to the
greylisting feature from the spam filtering.

Carlos M. Perez
Runcentral, LLC

On 10/23/2012 4:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Falling back to A when there is an MX (especially after receiving any
kind of SMTP response from the MX) is an RFC violation by the way (rfc
5321 section 5.1)

Even then - this doesn't appear to be the case.  The bounce below was
generated entirely within Hotmail.  From SNT133-WS53 (a hotmail
webserver) to snt-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com
<http://snt-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com> - which I believe is part of
their outbound mail farm.  That's where the bounce was generated.

"Requires authentication" might be because whatever domain is being
sent to was originally hosted on hotmail, and set to require
authentication to relay out through hotmail's servers.

--srs

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Michiel Klaver wrote:

    Carlos,

    check the mail logs of your web-server, your domain might have a
    primary
    A-record pointing to something different than MX-records. When the MX
    servers do something like greylisting and bounce with a temp-code
    (4xx)
    hotmail servers will try alternative records (like @ IN A) and
    might find a
    listening mail-daemon at your webserver.


    At 23-10-2012 00:16, Carlos M. Perez wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > We're trying to resolve some delivery issues reported by hotmail
    users.
    > Started happening a few weeks ago.  Getting immediate NDRs, and the
    > server that is supposed to receive the email has no records of
    > attempts.  The messages also don't match what the receiving server
    > should be sending.  The server(s) listed in the MX should
    receive all
    > email without authentication, since it's a mail filtering
    service (Maxmail)
    >
    > =
    > Reporting-MTA: dns;snt0-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com
    <http://snt0-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com>
    > Received-From-MTA: dns;SNT133-W53
    > Arrival-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:09:49 -0700
    >
    > Final-Recipient: rfc822;administrator () xxxx com <javascript:;>
    > Action: failed
    > Status: 5.5.0
    > Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 authentication required
    > =
    >
    > Kindly contact me off-list.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >



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--srs (iPad)







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