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Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed
From: "Carlos M. Perez" <cperez () runcentral com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:31:20 -0400
Suresh, The affected domains have never been on hotmail, etc. We've actually held this domain/hosting for the past 14+ years on this particular domain. Yes, there is an RFC violation, and it's apparently due to the greylisting feature from the spam filtering. Carlos M. Perez Runcentral, LLC On 10/23/2012 4:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Falling back to A when there is an MX (especially after receiving any kind of SMTP response from the MX) is an RFC violation by the way (rfc 5321 section 5.1) Even then - this doesn't appear to be the case. The bounce below was generated entirely within Hotmail. From SNT133-WS53 (a hotmail webserver) to snt-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com <http://snt-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com> - which I believe is part of their outbound mail farm. That's where the bounce was generated. "Requires authentication" might be because whatever domain is being sent to was originally hosted on hotmail, and set to require authentication to relay out through hotmail's servers. --srs On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Michiel Klaver wrote: Carlos, check the mail logs of your web-server, your domain might have a primary A-record pointing to something different than MX-records. When the MX servers do something like greylisting and bounce with a temp-code (4xx) hotmail servers will try alternative records (like @ IN A) and might find a listening mail-daemon at your webserver. At 23-10-2012 00:16, Carlos M. Perez wrote: > Hi, > > We're trying to resolve some delivery issues reported by hotmail users. > Started happening a few weeks ago. Getting immediate NDRs, and the > server that is supposed to receive the email has no records of > attempts. The messages also don't match what the receiving server > should be sending. The server(s) listed in the MX should receive all > email without authentication, since it's a mail filtering service (Maxmail) > > = > Reporting-MTA: dns;snt0-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com <http://snt0-omc3-s27.snt0.hotmail.com> > Received-From-MTA: dns;SNT133-W53 > Arrival-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:09:49 -0700 > > Final-Recipient: rfc822;administrator () xxxx com <javascript:;> > Action: failed > Status: 5.5.0 > Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 authentication required > = > > Kindly contact me off-list. > > Thanks, > -- --srs (iPad)
Current thread:
- hotmail.com live.com admin needed Carlos M. Perez (Oct 22)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Michiel Klaver (Oct 23)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Suresh Ramasubramanian (Oct 23)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Carlos M. Perez (Oct 23)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Carlos M. Perez (Oct 23)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Suresh Ramasubramanian (Oct 23)
- Re: Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Michiel Klaver (Oct 24)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Tony Finch (Oct 24)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Suresh Ramasubramanian (Oct 23)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Michiel Klaver (Oct 23)
- Re: hotmail.com live.com admin needed Alex Brooks (Oct 24)