Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

[bmanning () vacation karoshi com]

2013 - the year of the NAT.  (the only way a single stacked address family is going to be able to talk to 
a single stacked member of a different address family...  and unless we start agressive reuse of v4,  this will
happen sooner than later (dual-stack is rate limited to the smaller of the address families -UNLESS- NAT makes
reuse possible... :)

But since NAT is going to be required -anyway-....

2013 will be the year of the NAT.

/bill 

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 06:32:27AM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
>
> > Yet everyone (except you) insist that it does work with everything, and 
> > that all this CGN and 444 stuff and 644 stuff isn't necessary, and that 
> > I'm a fool for doubting all these (to me) wildly overoptimistic 
> > assertions about the coming ubiquity of native IPv6, end-to-end, heh.
>
> Dual stack works with "everything". IPv6 only access does not (with 
> 464XLAT it might). However, people are complaining that operators are 
> focusing more on CGN and NAT44(4) than they are on IPv6. Which I can 
> understand, but I believe we're getting closer to getting out of the dead 
> lock. My hope is that 2013 is going to be the year we're going to see 
> widespread IPv6 (dual stack) adoption on mobile devices outside of the US. 
> It's looking good so far.
>
> People are advocating dual stack now (at least that's what I do), for a 
> future goal of IPv6 only.
>
> The main problem with IPv6 only is that most app developers (most 
> programmers totally) do not really have access to this, so no testing is 
> being done.
>
> -- 
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se