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Re: mulcast assignments


From: Greg Shepherd <gjshep () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:44:23 -0700

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick () foobar org> wrote:
On 03/05/2012 21:00, Greg Shepherd wrote:
Sure, but GLOP predated SSM, and was really only an interim fix for
the presumed need of mcast address assignments. GLOP only gives you a
/24 for each ASN where SSM gives you a /8 for every unique unicast
address you have along with vastly superior security and network
simplicity.

SSM is indeed a lot simpler and better than GLOP in every conceivable way -
except vendor support.  It needs igmpv3 on all intermediate devices and SSM
support on the client device.  All major desktop operating systems now have
SSM support (OS/X since 10.7/Lion), but there is still lots of older
hardware which either doesn't support igmpv3 or else only supports it in a
very primitive fashion.  This can lead to Unexpected Behaviour in naive
roll-outs.

I haven't seen a piece of network gear without SSM support in a very
long time. The weak link is the applications. It was the OS stacks but
that's finally caught up - it only took it 10 years...

The weakest link is simply multicast deployment - if it's not
everywhere it has little use. That's what AMT is promising to fix. And
with AMT comes the opportunity to bring SSM to non-SSM-capable apps if
it is implemented correctly.

Greg

Nick



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