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Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks)
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:03:22 -0800
On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
In message <7B85F9D8-BA9E-4341-9242-5EB514895B4C () virtualized org>, David Conrad writes:I hope none of you ever get hijacked by a spammer housed at Phoenix =NAP. :) In the dim past, I had a somewhat similar situation: - A largish (national telco of a small country) ISP started announcing = address space a customer of theirs provided. Unfortunately, the address = space wasn't the ISP's customer's to provide. - When the ISP was notified by both their RIR and the organization to = which the address space was rightfully delegated, the ISP's response = was: "We have a contractual relationship with our customer to announce that = space. We have neither a contractual relationship (in this context) = with the RIR nor the RIR's customer. The RIR and/or the RIR's customer = should resolve this issue with our customer." It as an eye-opening experience. Regards, -drcAnd if I have a contract to commit murder that doesn't mean that it is right nor legal. A contract can't get you out of dealing with the law of the land and in most place in the world "aiding and abetting" is illegal. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org
Not to put a damper on things, but, is there actually any law that precludes use of integers as internet addresses contrary to the registration data contained in RIR databases? I can see how a case might be made for tortious interference, but I think it's quite nebulous and I believe a civil matter at best. IANAL, but, I actually wonder if there is any way to construe the behavior in question as criminal and if so, under what statute(s). Owen
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- Fwd: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks) Kelvin Williams (Jan 31)
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- Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks) David Conrad (Jan 31)
- Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks) PC (Jan 31)
- Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks) Kelvin Williams (Jan 31)
- Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks) Mark Andrews (Jan 31)
- Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks) David Conrad (Jan 31)
- Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks) Mark Andrews (Jan 31)
- Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked Networks) Owen DeLong (Jan 31)
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