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Re: [Outages-discussion] Recent outage in Australia affecting Telstra


From: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve () eintellego net>
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:15:09 +0000

I would probably suggest that there wouldn't be any.

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On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 06:01, Gary Buckmaster <
gary.buckmaster () digitalpacific com au> wrote:

On 2/25/2012 2:46 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gert Doering" <gert () greenie muc de>

One of Telstra's downstream customers, a smaller ISP called Dodo,
accidentally announced the global table to Telstra (or perhaps a very
large portion of it.) Enough of it to cause major disruption.

This is good. There is a chance that Telstra will learn from it, and
do proper customer-facing filters now.

OTOH, there also is a chance that Telstra lawyers will just sue the
customer, and not change anything...

Perhaps.  I am not familiar with Australian jurisprudence, but the US
there
is the doctrine of Last Clear Chance[1]... and the work necessary on
Telstra's
part to avoid this problem is a) well known, b) arguably considered best
practice for a company in their field, and c) not disproportionately
onorous for them to have undertaken...

so even if they sue, it's not at all a clear cut case for them to "win".

Cheers,
-- jra
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_clear_chance

Being a relatively recent immigrant to Australia from the US, I can say
that, although I have no background in Australian legal shenanigans,
they aren't quite the litigious bastards we Americans tend to be.

Most of the commentary on AUSNOG tended towards "that was foolish,
hopefully they learn from that".  I suspect the chances of there being
any legal fallout from this are slim.




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