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Re: Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...)


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:22:57 -0800

Marketing... They don't want to risk it getting caught in the current backlash
against 3-strikes laws.

Owen

On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:13 , Joly MacFie <joly () punkcast com> wrote:

ISOC-NY ran a half day conflab on 6 strikes (which incidentally - and for
reasons that escape me - is a name the Copyright Alert System perpetrators
wish would not be used) last November 15.

A full archive is available at http://isoc-ny.org/p2/4527


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jason Baugher <jason () thebaughers com>wrote:

We don't do content inspection. We don't really want to know what our
customers are doing, and even if we did, there's not enough time in the day
to spend paying attention. When we get complaints from the various
copyright agencies, we warn the customer to stop. When we hit a certain
number of complaints, its bye-bye customer.


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org> wrote:

On 2012-12-04 11:51, Nick B wrote:
In a related note, I wonder if the six-strike rule would violate the
ISP's
safe harbor, as it's clearly content inspection.

As performed in France, what happens is that some copyright owner
contacts the ISP that IP address a.b.c.d had accessed/served copyright
infringing data at date/time dd-mm-yyyy HH:mm providing some kind of
detail on how they figured that out.

That report is a 'strike' and gets forwarded to the user.

If that then happens 6 times they are blocked.

The ISP as such does not do any content inspection.

It is though assumed that some ISPs simply count bytes and that they do
some investigation themselves when you reach a certain bandwidth
threshold (it seems to correlate that copyright infringers are
downloading a lot more than normal webbrowsing users...)

Greets,
Jeroen







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