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Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois?
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:31:50 -0800
On Dec 10, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:
In message <272782D1-8DEA-4718-9429-8B0505DD30BD () delong com>, Owen DeLong write s:Sent from my iPad On Dec 10, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:=20 In message <50C65C84.6080203 () dougbarton us>, Doug Barton writes:On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Schiller, Heather A wrote:I think most folks would agree that, IPv4 /32 :: IPv6 /128 as IPv4 /29 :=: IPv6 /64 =20 Quite the opposite in fact. In IPv6 a /64 is roughly equivalent to a /32 in IPv4. As in, it's the smallest possible assignment that will allow an end-user host to function under normal circumstances. =20 SWIP or rwhois for a /64 seems excessive to me, FWIW. =20 Doug=20 Even SWIP for a /48 for a residential assignment is excessive. SWIP for a /48 for a commercial assignment is reasonable =20I disagree. SWIP for a /48 with the appropriate notations under residential c = ustomer privacy policy provides a good balance between the need for public a= ccountability of resource utilization and privacy concerns for residential c= ustomer assignments. OwenYou don't SWIP each residential customer with IPv4. You often SWIP blocks of residential customers down to the pop level. You often SWIP each commercial customer with IPv4.
You SWIP each one that gets a /29 or larger.
To require a SWIP entry for each residential customer is bureaucracy gone mad. Additionally there is no technical need for this. It isn't needed for address accountability. Residential customers have historically been treated in bulk.
It really isn't. We can agree to disagree, as we usually do. It's quite easily automated and it really is the equivalent to current IPv4 policy. The difference being only that in IPv6, we expect more customers to get networks instead of host addresses. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois?, (continued)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 11)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Doug Barton (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mark Andrews (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mark Andrews (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Randy Bush (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 11)