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Re: BGP Peers as basis of available routes


From: Thilo Bangert <thilo.bangert () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:03:51 +0200

On Wednesday, October 19, 2011 09:35:04 AM Nathanael C. Cariaga wrote:
Ok. Thanks for the information :)  So that would mean that to answer my
question, I would need to determine the web hosting provider who has the
most number of peers and most number of transit providers?


what i found usefull is to check the autnum objects in whois, as many document 
their peerings and transits there.

robtex has also some of this info, in a webinterface...

also helpful was peeringdb - you can lookup indvidual ASs without logging in 
like this

http://as<asnumber>.peeringdb.com/

it may give you an indication as to which exchanges your (potential) provider 
is present at - though not all providers have a / maintain their peeringdb 
record.

HTH
kind regards
Thilo

-nathan

On 10/19/2011 3:20 PM, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
Hi!

You wont see those local peerings unless all those providers have looking
glasses. So thats not gonna work out in this case. You will only see who
they transit with...

Thanks,
Raymond Dijkxhoorn, Prolocation

Op 19 okt. 2011 om 09:21 heeft "Nathanael C. 
Cariaga"<nccariaga () stluke com ph>  het volgende geschreven:
Hi.

Thanks for the prompt response.  Actually our requirement is to find a
webhosting provider whose routes are widely advertised locally and
regionally.  This is why I thought of using bgp as a basis studying the
availability of routes of the hosting provider.


-nathan

On 10/19/2011 3:00 PM, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
Hi!

Dont mix up peering and transit connections!

That you dont see that route on a lookingglass doesnt mean much. Only
Could tell you they dont transit there.

Its all depending what you definiƫren with available routes.

If i peer with all ISP's in a specific area and your looking glass isnt
licated there does that mean its bad? You need to know much more. If
your customers are local there its even prefered.

Its never that black/white ...its depending on your needs!

Thanks,
Raymond Dijkxhoorn, Prolocation

Op 19 okt. 2011 om 08:46 heeft "Nathanael C. 
Cariaga"<nccariaga () stluke com ph>   het volgende geschreven:
Hi!

We're currently evaluating web hosting providers in the APAC region
and one of the criteria that we are currently considering is the
availability of routes going to the web hosting provider.

In this regard,  I would like to ask for your idea regarding this.  Is
it safe to conclude that the web hosting provider's available routes
would would depend on the peers who are advertising their AS /
network?  (i.e if web hosting provider claims that they are peering
with telco a, b, c but as seen from a third party looking glass, only
C is seen advertising the web hosting provider network that would
mean web hosting provider is effectively utilizing c as their
upstream??)

Thanks.


--
-nathan


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