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Re: NANOG:RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
From: Andrea Gozzi <mls () vp44 net>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:02:53 +0200
Can't but agree with Jamie. The ability to centralize management for all Blackberry users and _force_ them to comply with company policy (it's an investment bank) saved us lot of hassle when, and it happens regularly, people lose their handsets. Otherwise, it would be all unencrypted, unmonitored and unprotected access points to customer's private data. Some of our representatives recently switched to iphones, but nobody from management will ever be allowed anything than a Blackberry. Andrea On 10/13/11 5:55 PM, "Jamie Bowden" <jamie () photon com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:36 AM To: Jay Ashworth Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>wrote:----- Original Message -----From: "Jamie Bowden" <jamie () photon com>Someday either Google or Apple will get off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted servicethatplugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we canallgladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bins wheretheybelong.<plug>I'm fairly sure K-9 does GPG, at least for the email</plug>plus normal mail + k9 will do TLS on SMTP and IMAP... or they both do with my mail server just fine. (idevices seeem to also do this well enough) It's possible that the 'encryption' comment from Jamie is really about encrypting the actual device... which I believe Android[0] will do, I don't know if idevices do though.As of 2.3[.x?] (can't remember if it's a sub release that intro'd this), Android devices can be wholly encrypted, though I don't know if they are by default. All these kludges are great on a small scale, but the BES does end to end encryption for transmission, plugs into Exchange, Lotus, Sametime, proxies internal http[s], and lets us manage policies and push out software updates from a central management point. When it works, it's also scalable, which matters when you have thousands of devices to manage. Jamie
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- RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide, (continued)
- RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Jamie Bowden (Oct 13)
- RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Matthew Huff (Oct 13)
- RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Erik Soosalu (Oct 13)
- Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide TR Shaw (Oct 13)
- RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Blake T. Pfankuch (Oct 13)
- RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Pierce Lynch (Oct 13)
- RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Blake T. Pfankuch (Oct 13)
- Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Jay Ashworth (Oct 13)
- Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Christopher Morrow (Oct 13)
- RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Jamie Bowden (Oct 13)
- Re: NANOG:RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Andrea Gozzi (Oct 13)
- Re: NANOG:RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide McCall, Gabriel (Oct 13)
- Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 13)
- Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide Matthew Kaufman (Oct 13)
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