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Re: Were A record domain names ever limited to 23 characters?


From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:50:44 +0000

 back in the day,

 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.ca.us.

 existed to test the length of DNS label.  circa 1992

 ^b.com also existed (yes, we considered ^p)


 the heady days of DNS evolution!

/bill


On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 06:16:46PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
NSI was never the only registrar. They were just the only registrar
for COM, ORG, NET, EDU, and possibly a few other TLDs, but,
they were, for example, never the registrar for US or many other
CCTLDs.

Therefore, it was not internet wide, though I will admit that it did
cover most of the widely known gTLDs.

Owen

On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:45 PM, steve pirk [egrep] wrote:

It turns out it was an artificial limitation on Network Solution's part.
Being the only registrar at the time, it was pretty much internet wide at
that point, contrary to the RFC spec.

What was so funny was that someone got Internic/Network Solutions to up the
limit. Apparently just to save some money on reprinting movie posters... ok,
so they would have had to change some trailers...
;-]

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 16:39, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Joe Hamelin <joe () nethead com> wrote:
I remember tales from when there was an eight character limit.  But that
was
back when you didn't have to pay for them and they assigned you a class-c
block automatically.  Of course it took six weeks to register because
there
was only one person running the registry.

You may be referring to a limitation of a certain OS regarding a
hostname; or some network's policy.
But the DNS protocol itself never had a limit of 8 characters.
When we are talking about the contents of "A" record names,

I would refer you to
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2181.txt
"RFC 2181
Clarifications to the DNS Specification R. Elz, R. Bush
[ July 1997 ] (TXT = 36989) (Updates RFC1034, RFC1035, RFC1123)
(Updated-By RFC4035, RFC2535, RFC4343, RFC4033, RFC4034, RFC5452)
(Status: PROPOSED STANDARD) (Stream: IETF, Area: int, WG: dnsind) "

"
Elz & Bush                  Standards Track                    [Page 12]
...
Occasionally it is assumed that the Domain Name System serves only
 the purpose of mapping Internet host names to data, and mapping
 Internet addresses to host names.  This is not correct, the DNS is a
 general (if somewhat limited) hierarchical database, and can store
 almost any kind of data, for almost any purpose.
...
11. Name syntax
"
The length of any one label is limited to between 1 and 63 octets.  A
full domain
 name is limited to 255 octets (including the separators).  The zero
 length full name is defined as representing the root of the DNS tree,
 and is typically written and displayed as ".".  Those restrictions
 aside, any binary string whatever can be used as the label of any
 resource record.
"

--
-JH




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refiamerica.org
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