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Re: Facebook insecure by design
From: Joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:43:47 -0700
On 10/2/11 15:25 , Jimmy Hess wrote:
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 08:38:36 PDT, Michael Thomas said:I'm not sure why lack of TLS is considered to be problem with Facebook. The man in the middle is the other side of the connection, tls or otherwise.Ooh.. subtle. :)Man in the Middle (MITM) is a technical term that refers to a rather specific kind of attack. In this case, I believe the proper term would be just "The man". [Or "Man at the Other End (MATOE)"]; you either trust Facebook with info to send to them or you don't, and network security is only for securing the transportation of that information you opt to send facebook.
alice sends charlie a message using bob's api, bob can observe and probably monetize the contents.
Yes, if Alice sends Bob an encrypted message that Bob can read, and Bob turns out to be untrustworthy, then Bob can sell/re-use the information in an abusive/unapproved way for personal or economic profit.
charlie is probably untrustworthy, bob is probably moreso (mostly because bob has more to lose than charlie), alice isn't cognizant of the implications of running charlie's app on bob's platform despite the numerous disclaimers she blindly clicked through on the way there.
-- -JH
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- Re: Facebook insecure by design Michael Thomas (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Jimmy Hess (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design William Allen Simpson (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Michael Thomas (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Patrick Sumby (Oct 03)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Jason Leschnik (Oct 03)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Michael Thomas (Oct 03)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design William Allen Simpson (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Jimmy Hess (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Jimmy Hess (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Joel jaeggli (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Joel jaeggli (Oct 02)
- Re: Facebook insecure by design Bill.Pilloud (Oct 04)
- OT: Social Networking, Privacy and Control Jay Ashworth (Oct 04)
- Re: OT: Social Networking, Privacy and Control Christian de Larrinaga (Oct 04)
- Re: OT: Social Networking, Privacy and Control Travis Biehn (Oct 05)
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