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Re: DPI deployment use case


From: PC <paul4004 () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:44:45 -0600

I've seen these used for two purposes over the years:

1) Repressive nation states.

2) ISPs/Universities who want to "shape" their bandwidth to prevent certain
traffic types from consuming everything.

3) Integrated with enhanced caching solutions to serve content locally and
save bandwidth (Web cache).

Use case #2 is becoming less and less common ISP industry wide.  More and
more consumptive activities are switching away from quasi-legitimate
"throttle it and see if anyone complains" type activities
(bittorrent/Peer2Peer), and more and more towards legitiamte, high
consumption, HTTP based traffic, where subscribers would have a fit.  Net
neutrality rules in some countries are limiting this behavior further (such
as Skype blocking).  Furthermore, industry wide pay-as-you-use and unlimited
access with bandwidth caps is becoming more prevalent among wired and
wireless SPs.

Your use case is not beyond the possibility of full DPI, but a transparent
proxy box of some nature would be sufficient for most of that.  Usage limits
on the other hand is often easier done via your AAA accounting/radius
solution, including policing/shaping/cutting users off/billing for overages.

Ohh, and these boxes often make pretty pictures, graphs, and reports.




On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Claudio Lapidus <clapidus () gmail com> wrote:

Hello,

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Martin Millnert <millnert () gmail com>
wrote:

I've seen tyrannical governments use Bluecoat's to crack down on their
own population(*).
Was this the sort of use-case you were looking for? :)

Ummm, not really... :)

Actually, we've been faced with proposals to build services based on
traffic
classification, like e.g. "access our own webmail and all social networking
sites, but not skype and video" or the capability to do exact metering
based
on net traffic time or volume, as well as being able to redirect the
customer to various captive portals using HTTP redirect directly from the
DPI box, and such.

What I'm interested to know, is if someone has actually had some success
with service offerings like these, or if it can be used to implement some
other kind of value-added service in the network access provider field.

I am fully aware of the net-neutrality implications this might have, but
anyway, putting that aside for a moment, I would like to explore the
possibilities that this technology brings in.

thanks again,
cl.



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