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Re: First real-world SCADA attack in US


From: Charles Mills <w3yni1 () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:38:42 -0500

Having worked on plenty of industrial and other control systems I can
safely say security on the systems is generally very poor.   The
vulnerabilities have existed for years but are just now getting attention.
   This is a problem that doesn't really need a bunch of new legislation.
It's an education / resource issue.   The existing methods that have been
used for years with reasonable success in the IT industry can 'fix' this
problem.


Industrial Controls systems are normally only replaced when they are so
old that parts can no longer be obtained.   PC's started to be widely used
as operator interfaces about the time Windows 95 came out.   A lot of those
Win95 boxes are still running and have been connected to the network over
the years.

And... if you can destroy a pump by turning it off and on too often then
somebody engineered the control and drive system incorrectly.  Operators
(and processes) do stupid things all the time.  As the control systems
engineer your supposed to deal with that so that things don't go boom.



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Mark Radabaugh
Amplex

mark () amplex net  419.837.5015

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There are still industrial control machines out there running MS-DOS.

As you said not replaced until you can't get parts anymore.
Chuck


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