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Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ?


From: Brielle Bruns <bruns () 2mbit com>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:59:43 -0600

On 3/13/11 7:02 AM, sthaug () nethelp no wrote:
Well now, I'd say this varies considerably. There are definitely ISPs
that care and*do*  work hard at reducing abuse. But even so - assuming
I'm an ISP that cares,

- You're presenting me with evidence of abuse. OK, I don't know you.
Why should I believe your evidence? At best I'm going to take it as a
*hint*.
- If I take your evidence as a hint, I'm going to want to correlate it
with my own logs. This takes time.


This also applies in reverse when your asking to get out of a DNSbl. FWIW, when you deal with me on getting out of the AHBL, how well you handle my abuse report affects how well I handle your request to be delisted. :)

effort in == effort out


- I probably have customer contracts in place that specify under what
circumstances I can actually take the customer off net. My tolerance
of abuse may not be the same as your. Also, "due process" means that
these things take time.

You aren't by chance related to Andrew Stevens? He's been going on recently about "due process" (quotes and all) to the point where certain newsgroups are flooded with socks.


If not, then you have my apology :)


Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting,sthaug () nethelp no


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Brielle Bruns
The Summit Open Source Development Group
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