Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

[Marshall Eubanks <tme () americafree tv>]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:

> I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.

I believe that was the case for Burma, for example.

Marshall


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> Jared Mauch
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> On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:
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> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Jake Khuon <khuon () neebu net> wrote:
> >
> > > I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual
> > > layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals.  Are we
> > > seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down?
> > > Both could still point to a coordinated intentional blackout by the
> > > Egyptian gov't though.
> >
> > out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light
> > and peer shutdown? If the local gov't comes in and says: "Make the
> > internets go down", you as the op choose how to do that... NOT getting
> > calls from your peer for interface alarms is probably sane. You can
> > simply drop your routes, leave BGP running even and roll ...
> >
> > If it's clear (and it seems to be) that the issue is a
> > nation-state-decision... implementation (how it's done, no IF it's
> > done) isn't really important, is it?
> >
> > -chris