Re: Verizon acquiring Terremark

[Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net>]

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Jason LeBlanc <jml () packetpimp org> wrote:
> I wonder if the price point will change.  Having been in PAIX/S&D/Equinix
> facilities for several years things have certainly changed with regard to
> contract negotiations and pricing.  Equinix is not very flexible.  The
> shuffle of techs has also resulted in a much less helpful group to work
> with.
>
> On 02/02/2011 09:20 AM, Paul Vixie wrote:
> > > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:22:39 -0500
> > > From: Jeffrey Lyon<jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net>
> > >
> > > I'm sure everything will be fine in practice as others have indicated,
> > > I was merely making a point of the inherent conflict of interest.
> >
> > ah.  if you mean "it's unusual" or "it's difficult" rather than "it
> > cannot be" then i have no arguments.  the reason PAIX got traction
> > at all, coming late to the game (1995-ish) as we did, was because MFS
> > was then able to charge circuit prices for many forms of cross connect
> > down at MAE West.  and i did face continuous pressure from MFN to go
> > after a share of PAIX's carrier's circuit revenue.  (which i never did
> > and which none of my successors have done either.)
> >
> > noting, the game as moved on.  if verizon behaves badly as terremark's
> > owner then the presence of equinix in the market will act as a relief
> > valve.  i think the "neutral and commercial" model is very well
> > established and that verizon will not want to be the only carrier in
> > those facilities nor have their circuit-holders be the only customers
> > for the real estate.  it's an awful lot of space to use just as colo,
> > and it's both over- and underbuilt for colo (vs. an IX).
> >
> > re:
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Paul Vixie<vixie () isc org>  wrote:
> > > > Jeffrey Lyon<jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net>  writes:
> > > >
> > > > > One cannot be owned by a carrier and remain carrier neutral.
> > > > >
> > > > > My two cents,
> > > >
> > > > my experience running PAIX when it was owned by MFN was not
> > > > like you're saying.

You might try TelX, we've had good luck with them.

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