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Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:40:51 +0900
Leo Bicknell wrote:
Moble networks do not today, and should not in the future expose those handoffs to the IP layer. Even WiFi networks are moving from the per-cell (AP) model you describe to a controller based infrastructure that seeks to avoid exposing L3 changes to the client.
The reality in Japan today is that each AP used by smart phones to bypass traffic from 3G to the Internet is independently provided by small shops or individuals' households through their own Internet connectivity, there can be no central controller.
You do not want to get a new L3 address every 3.6 seconds. Worse, if in the case of VoIP you need a cell handoff to take< 25ms or so, which could never happen with new L3 addresseing and then renegotating the session to a new L3 address.
As voice traffic is negligible, I think it is carried over 3G only. But, if you seriously need smooth handover, you must have 2 independent WLAN receivers to simultaneously connect to two APs operating at different channels for make-before-break style handover. Or, another possibility is to use only a single channel of WLAN by all the related APs (Packet Division Multiple Access (PDMA)). I have confirmed both approaches work combined with IP mobility with applications of voice and video over IP.
Moble networks are designed to provide a L1/L2 fast switching path back to a controller infrastructure which then provides the L3 handoff. This properly decouples the layers and allows normal LAN based timing for the L3 system.
What's happening today is migration from 3G/4G to WLAN. Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Ray Soucy (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Ray Soucy (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? TJ (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Cameron Byrne (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? TJ (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Alan Clegg (Dec 29)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Leo Bicknell (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 28)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Mohacsi Janos (Dec 23)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? William Herrin (Dec 23)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Owen DeLong (Dec 20)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Tore Anderson (Dec 20)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Glen Kent (Dec 22)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Doug Barton (Dec 22)
- Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one? Masataka Ohta (Dec 22)