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RE: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap
From: Nathan Eisenberg <nathan () atlasnetworks us>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:26:46 +0000
RIPE/ARIN/APNIC etc have zero actual authority over actual routing.
That is not a flaw in the system, it is a fundamental precept of it. Their function (In Curran's words: "as the community has defined it") is as a registry of allocation data, not as some kind of authoritative regional route super-reflector.
Yet another reason they aren't worth the money we flush down the toilet for them to do absolutely nothing.
It seems obvious to me that an internet without -some- kind of addressing registry will not function. So you're being hyperbolic. Hyperbole weakens any argument - it reveals that the proponent is not rationally considering the issue. I suspect you are completely aware that the RIRs perform real functions, and that your real objection is that they don't operate at some arbitrary level of efficiency, or perform some additional role that you've predefined (but not shared in your argument). Without a shared definition, it is impossible to have a constructive conversation (and I am assuming that you are on NANOG to be constructive, rather than to troll operators). John Curran appears to be completely open to constructive suggestions, so if you have real and substantive input, why not contribute your intellect to the problem and talk to him? Every organization has things they could be doing better, but as in physics, it often requires some new outside force to make it happen. Nathan Eisenberg
Current thread:
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap, (continued)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Arturo Servin (Aug 20)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Denis Spirin (Aug 20)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Arturo Servin (Aug 20)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Denis Spirin (Aug 20)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Arturo Servin (Aug 20)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap David Conrad (Aug 20)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Tammy A. Wisdom (Aug 20)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Joel Jaeggli (Aug 21)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Jimmy Hess (Aug 21)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap David Conrad (Aug 21)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Denis Spirin (Aug 20)
- RE: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 21)
- resolving prefix hijacks (was Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap) Ken Chase (Aug 21)
- Re: resolving prefix hijacks (was Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap) Jon Lewis (Aug 21)
- Re: resolving prefix hijacks (was Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap) Randy Bush (Aug 21)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Arturo Servin (Aug 20)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Arturo Servin (Aug 21)
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- Fwd: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Denis Spirin (Aug 21)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Erik Bais (Aug 21)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap chip (Aug 21)
- RE: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Erik Bais (Aug 21)
- Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap Denis Spirin (Aug 21)