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Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites
From: Jeff Wheeler <jsw () inconcepts biz>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:18:46 -0400
2011/4/18 Lukasz Bromirski <lukasz () bromirski net>:
LISP scales better, because with introduction of *location* prefix, you're at the same time (or ideally you would) withdraw the original aggregate prefix. And as no matter how you count it, the number of *locations* will be somewhat limited vs number of *PI* address spaces that everyone wants
I strongly disagree with the assumption that the number of locations/sites would remain static. This is the basic issue that many folks gloss over: dramatically decreasing the barrier-to-entry for multi-homing or provider-independent addressing will, without question, dramatically increase the number of multi-homed or provider-independent sites. LISP "solves" this problem by using the router's FIB as a macro-flow-cache. That's good except that a site with a large number of outgoing macro-flows (either because it's a busy site, responding to an external DoS attack, or actually originating a DoS attack from a compromised host) will cripple that site's ITR. In addition, the current negative mapping cache scheme is far from ideal. I've written a couple of folks with a provably superior scheme (compared to existing work), and have received zero feedback. This is not good.
We may of course argue that the current routers are pretty capable in terms of processing power for control-plane, but
We agree that the ability to move tasks from the router to an external control plane is good. BGP may get better at this as time goes on, too. -- Jeff S Wheeler <jsw () inconcepts biz> Sr Network Operator / Innovative Network Concepts
Current thread:
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites, (continued)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Luigi Iannone (Apr 11)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Owen DeLong (Apr 11)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Jeff Wheeler (Apr 11)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Cameron Byrne (Apr 11)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Owen DeLong (Apr 11)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Jeff Wheeler (Apr 11)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Luigi Iannone (Apr 12)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Jeff Wheeler (Apr 13)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Joel Jaeggli (Apr 17)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Lukasz Bromirski (Apr 18)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Jeff Wheeler (Apr 18)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Lukasz Bromirski (Apr 18)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Owen DeLong (Apr 18)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Luigi Iannone (Apr 19)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Leo Bicknell (Apr 18)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Lukasz Bromirski (Apr 18)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Luigi Iannone (Apr 19)
- Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites Luigi Iannone (Apr 12)