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Re: ISP port blocking practice


From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:03:19 -0500

Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Yes... Many of the idiots that block outbound 25 also block outbound 587 and sometimes 465.

Could you point to more than one instance?  I've not yet found one.  And I think I spend at least as much time in hotels & 3G 
& airports & etc. as you anyone else here.


I can't remember the ISP, but yes, I've run across this. I had to have my helpdesk inform the customer that they'll have to complain and gripe at the ISP they were using or make other arrangements as I only support 25/587 (customer didn't want to use webmail).

Problem is, people hear "block ports", they get in the habit, and the next thing you know, they are blocking ports out of ignorance with no comprehension of what they are breaking.

I'd much rather see rate detection setups that let me send however I want, but limit the connections per time interval. It implies that some thought might go into determining the rates. Of course, the only setup I've done like this in testing in my network involved flow analyzers and dynamic acl's.


Jack


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