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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?
From: Jeromie Reeves <jreeves () 18-30chat net>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:34:09 -0700
I have the same problem getting decent fiber out here. They keep wanting to do a loop clear back to the other side of the state. I will jsut keep building out my towers to towns where I know I can co-lo or get QMOE at least. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org> wrote:
In a message written on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 04:44:04PM +0000, Michael Sokolov wrote:Does that mean no CLECs like Covad or DSL.net who colocate in the AT&T CO, rent unbundled dry copper pairs and take it up from there themselves?I found someone off list with access to Megapath's "Partner Portal" where they can get the real scoop, and did that for my specific location. Short form: They can resell AT&T's lower speed ADSL (but not their top speeds) at a markup. They can resell Comcast's cable modem service at a markup. They can offer IDSL (ISDN Speeds) or SDSL from the actual CO, which they claim is 19k feet away, my google maps says 23k feet away. The estimate is I could get 768k symmetric at that distance, which would mean 1/10th the bandwidth I have now at approximately 5 times the cost I have now. So I'm sure if you're a government bean counter or AT&T lobbyest there is "competition" out of my CO, and I have options. As a consumer looking at the practical side of it I see no options, I have a Telco or Cable company, with basically the same offerings at the same speed at the same prices. YMMV, likely a lot with where you live. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
Current thread:
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Sokolov (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Leo Bicknell (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Owen DeLong (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Leo Bicknell (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jeromie Reeves (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Painter (Sep 18)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Michael Sokolov (Sep 17)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? William Herrin (Sep 20)