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Re: ISP port blocking practice
From: Zhiyun Qian <zhiyunq () umich edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 21:55:41 -0500
I skimmed through these specs. They are useful but seems only related specific to IP spoofing prevention. I see that IP spoofing is part of the asymmetric routing story. But I was more thinking that given that IP spoofing is not widely adopted, the other defenses that they can more perhaps more easily implement is to block incoming traffic with source port 25 (if they already decided to block outgoing traffic with destination port 25). But according to our study, most of the ISPs didn't do that at the time of study (probably still true today). -Zhiyun On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
BCP38 / RFC2827 were created specifically to address some quite similar problems. And googling either of those two strings on nanog will get you a lot of griping and/or reasons as to why these aren't being more widely adopted :) --srs On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Zhiyun Qian <zhiyunq () umich edu> wrote:Suresh, thanks for your interest. I see you've had a lot of experience in fighting spam, so you must have known this. Yes, I know this spamming technique has been around for a while. But it's surprising to see that the majority of the ISPs that we studied are still vulnerable to this attack. That probably indicates that it is not as widely known as we would expect. So I thought it would be beneficial to raise the awareness of the problem. In terms of more results, the paper is the most detailed document we have. Otherwise, if you interested in the data that we collected (which ISPs or IP ranges are vulnerable to this attack). We can chat offline. Regards. -Zhiyun
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- Re: ISP port blocking practice Zhiyun Qian (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice William Herrin (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Zhiyun Qian (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Zhiyun Qian (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Zhiyun Qian (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Zhiyun Qian (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Daniel Senie (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice William Herrin (Sep 03)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Dobbins, Roland (Sep 03)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Dobbins, Roland (Sep 03)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Zhiyun Qian (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice William Herrin (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Owen DeLong (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Jack Bates (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Franck Martin (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Owen DeLong (Sep 03)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 03)