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Re: AT&T Dry Pairs?


From: Andrew Carey <carey () ar-ballbat org>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:22:28 -0700

Or a (utility) telemetry circuit.

None of these will necessarily get you a dry copper loop, depending on the facilities serving your two locations. Also 
the circuit length will undoubtedly be longer than 100ft so keep that in mind for whatever you're planning to do with 
it. 

You might also try a local CLEC. They can get dry loops from AT&T in different qualities that match your intended use 
from a simple dry voice grade loop to an unloaded DSL capable loop. Whether the CLEC provide it to you in that form is 
another matter. Even if they do so, the loops may not be straight copper all the way through. 


On Oct 1, 2010, at 3:25, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

Try asking for one of the following:

   1.    Farmer Line
   2.    Alarm Circuit

I think there are a few other ways to ask for a dry pair that might circumvent
the limited know-how of the people you are talking to, but, I don't recall
them off the top of my head.

Owen

On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote:

Has anyone had any luck lately getting dry pairs from AT&T? I'm in the
Chicago area attempting to get a dry pair between two buildings (100ft
apart) for some equipment, but when speaking to several folks at AT&T the
response I get is "You want AT&T service without the service? That's not
logical!". Had no problems 3-4 years ago getting these sorts of "circuits",
but it appears it's gone the way of the dodo now. Any emails off-list are
appreciated.

-- 
Brandon Galbraith
US Voice: 630.492.0464




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