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Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time
From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg () tristatelogic com>
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 04:10:12 -0700
In message <B3543192-FB22-4CDC-84D0-2944EA237464 () delong com>, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
It's not so much a matter of whether ARIN cares or whether ARIN wants to do something about your issue. It's more a matter of whether ARIN is empowered to do anything at all about your issue.
That is complete and utter horse shit, and you're just dodging the real issue by trying to change the subject. It isn't going to work. People, even people here, may be stupid, but I think that most can recognize sleight of hand when they see it.
I'm sorry you're not satisfied with that fact. I'm sorry that you are = obviously clearly very upset by this experience. However, I think your issue stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of the role ARIN plays in the community vs. that of the ISPs.
No, it doesn't. I think that *your* issue stems from a fundamental inability to read what I wrote.
It's kind of like asking a DMV representative to arrest an auto thief.
No, it's kind of like asking the DMV whether the car belongs to the thief or to someone else. They keep the records for Christ's sake! They *can* take a position on that rudumentary, simple, and basic question, and they should. And that is all I ask or expect them to do. But they don't even want to do that miniscule amount of work, apparently. They want to be the Keeper of the Records, but then they want to roll over and play dead, or ignorant, or agnostic, whenever somebody has the temerrity to simply ask them what the f**king records they are keeping *mean* about who actually owns what. I already said it, but I'll say it again for the benefit of those with low reading comprehension. Nobody is asking ARIN to go out, with guns drawn, and pull the plug themselves. But they can and should take a position on who owns what. That is a judicial function, not a police function. If you don't understand the distinction, then you are dumber than you think I think you are. Regards, rfg
Current thread:
- ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Heath Jones (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Jeffrey Lyon (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time David Miller (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time bmanning (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time David Miller (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time William Herrin (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time David Miller (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Christopher Morrow (Oct 01)
- Verifying route origins and ownership (Was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time) Jeroen Massar (Oct 01)
- Re: Verifying route origins and ownership (Was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time) Christopher Morrow (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Owen DeLong (Oct 01)