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Re: IPv4 sunset date revised : 2009-02-05


From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 04:10:08 +0000

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:52:32PM -0500, Jack Bates wrote:
On 10/21/2010 10:48 PM, bmanning () vacation karoshi com wrote:

    not so much - it runs on linux instead of a closed OS.
I think you missed the point. Many are waiting for it to be supported on 
their brand of routers. Not everyone has huge numbers of servers sitting 
around acting as translation gateways (or spying on traffic).

        true dat.  but there was also a subtext on CPE kit.

        not all of us are big telcos or buy IP service from same.

        to paraphrase Dave, if ATT decides to drop IPv4 support,
        sigh its a pita, but I don't -NEED- ATT IP services.
        I can get much/most of what I want/need w/ a little work/elbow  
        greese.  
        
        if the goal was to scare people w/ a very public "retirement" date
        for IPv4 - then maybe it worked.  As for me, the retirement date
        was a year or so back.  No worries here.

        if folks fit the model described above, the rock is new/untested
        code (IPv6 support) and the hard place is NAT (still going to need
        it in a mixed v4/v6 world)  ... If there are NAT functions w/ 
        tested code paths that have already passed QA, then that becomes
        an easier sell to mgmt - no?

        And ATT realises that 99.982% of its customers 
        could care less if its IPv4 or IPv6 or IPX... They just know
        (cause ATT told them) that the Internet grew out of the World
        Wide Web... and that is what they need with their i[fone/pad/pod/tv].
        
        ATT will find a way to keep its costs down and provide the functionality
        demanded by its customers.  


Jack


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