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Re: Auditing a network to add Voice


From: Bret Clark <bclark () spectraaccess com>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:42:23 -0500

I'm not sure if Wireshark will let you do this...at least with TCP, we do use Wireshark to analyze RTP traffic which provides jitter/loss data, maybe a vendor provided LAN analyzer would provide this information

I still think you're better of on using some type of tools and do the measurement in their network's live at various times of the day. Every path through the network is going to have different delays/jitter/loss at various times of the the day. You can probably get loss via RMON statistics in switches/routers, but delays/jitter requires that you are monitoring a data conversation at the TCP/IP layer and I'm not aware of network equipment (switches/routers) that watch individual TCP/IP layers to provide jitter/delay...that would require quite a bit of a devices resources.

If you run the apps on their network live, they you are basically going to get the information you need about the overall quality of their network they have in place today.
Bret

On 11/22/2010 11:17 AM, Kasper Adel wrote:
Hi Bret,

These guys are not looking for measuring traffic generated by a tool, they want to measure what they have running now (not only Voice). I am not sue if measuring what they have or generating traffic and measuring it is the same thing. what do u think?

thanks,
Kim

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Bret Clark <bclark () spectraaccess com <mailto:bclark () spectraaccess com>> wrote:

    Iperf can be used to measure jitter and delay as well as simulate
    a quasi VoIP call. You can also use mtr under Linux which provides
    jitter and delay measurements from one point to another point. A
    g.729 call (lower quality) takes about ~40kbps and a g.711 (high
    quality) used about ~100Kbps of bandwidth. With most of today's
    networks, the problem isn't bandwidth related, but more with
    jitter, delay, and packet loss through the network...personally
    I'm a big fan of deploying QoS through out an
    infrastructure...well at least in our WAN infrastructure.

    Bret



    On 11/22/2010 09:59 AM, Kasper Adel wrote:

        Hi,

        My customer would like to add VoIP over their network and they
        asked us for
        an audit. the result of the audit would be simply "you guys
        are ready for
        it"

        Breaking it down [high level] for me sounds like :
        (suggestions are more
        than welcomed) :

        1) Looking at hardware computation finite resources (cpu,
        memory...etc)
        2) Looking at available bandwidth
        3) QoS policy
        4) High Availability and Fast Convergence

        Any thing else?

        They asked us to measure the KPIs (jitter, delay...etc) of
        their existing
        traffic, is there a way to do that?

        Thanks,
        Kim






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