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Re: FIOS Router


From: Andrey Khomyakov <khomyakov.andrey () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:48:11 -0400

I worked for a small business that purchased 20Mbps FiOS. I threw the
actiontech out the day it showed up in the mail. Plugged the copper hand off
from the ONT into my 2851 and never looked back.
I can't recall what was involved back then in doing so. Verizon clearly
stated that they won't support that. In other words, i'd have to hook up the
actiontech every time I  would need to call them, but that never happened.
The link was solid day in and day out. So the only time I ever used it when
VZN tech showed up to "make sure everything works" on the first day of
service.
iirc, I was researching that before I did that and stumbled upon some forums
that claimed that if I hook up the actiontech first and then take it out and
plug in something else, I'll have issues with VZN caching my MAC address or
some bullsh*t like that. But that only seemed to apply in case of if the
customer is using a DHCP address. At the time we paid for a block of 5 IPs,
so we had static.
In short, I never say a single issue, but just to be fair, I only did NAT
out for user access. Never hosted a server on it or anything like that.
The only thing I recall bugging VZN about is for them to hand me off RJ45
copper, rather than coax, but sounds like you've got RJ45 hand off already,
so you should be set.

Hope this helps.

Andrey

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Chris Burwell <cburwell () gmail com> wrote:

I'm doing some research for a group that has a 100Mb FIOS Internet
connection at their site. I was surprised to learn that Verizon
supplied them with the same Actiontec router that they provided me
with on my 10Mb connection at home. Needless to say the Actiontec
router is not up to the task of moving all of that traffic (they are
using about 80Mb now and sometimes max out their connection). Verizon
has been good about replacing the router multiple time when they
finally fail, however  having to power-cycle the router multiple times
per day is not acceptable.

What I would like to do is set them up with a router/firewall that is
capable of handling their current bandwidth needs as well as their
anticipated future growth. My concern is terminating the FIOS
connection from the ONT directly to something like a Cisco 3900
(Output from the ONT is CAT5 terminating to RJ-45). I have been
searching around the Internet and found one discussion where someone
claims to have been able to accomplish just this using a Cisco 871
router. Based on the loose discussions that I have read it seems that
the FIOS connection configuration can vary from area to area.

I am also aware that we can configure the Actiontec router as a
bridge, but I would much rather remove it altogether particularly with
the amount of traffic this group is moving.

Has anyone been able to accomplish this or something similar with any
hardware other then the router Verizon provides? Any insight on
Verizon's official stance on this would be helpful. If there is
someone from Verizon out there that can contact me about the technical
aspects of doing this, that would be much appreciated as well.

- Chris




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Andrey Khomyakov
[khomyakov.andrey () gmail com]


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