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Re: Dial Concentrators - TNT / APX8000 R.I.P.


From: JC Dill <jcdill.lists () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 09:56:31 -0700

Mark Foster wrote:
On Wed, May 12, 2010 4:38 am, Justin Wilson wrote:
There are those ppl who just want to do e-mail, are comfortable with
dial-up, don¹t want to pay for than $5-10 for internet, and can¹t get
anything else.


Indeed. The arguments for alternatives based on the fact theyre cheap,
don't counter the fact that it's not available _everywhere_.

Thus the wider concern I flagged; if the only source for equipment and
spares is the grey market, aren't the vendors missing the boat on
something which shouldn't even have a major overhead to maintain?

The source for equipment and spares isn't the "grey market" - it's the USED market. There should be ample used equipment to meet the small amount of dial-up equipment purchases needs for years to come as many ISPs phase out dial-up equipment and services and offer their old (still working but no-longer-needed) dial-up equipment for resale.

What about developing nations where Internet isn't yet as commonplace as
it is in the 'west' ?

Most developing nations today are leapfrogging right over POTS and dial-up into a cellular/wireless infrastructure. This is why there is so little demand for dial-up infrastructure equipment.

If there's a significant need for dial-up equipment and support then at least one company will provide legacy support, perhaps act as a reseller to help provision used dial-up equipment and recondition the equipment etc.

You *can* still buy brand new buggy whips:

http://www.jedediahsbuggywhip.com/
http://www.drivingessentials.com/Whips.htm

There are still vendors selling thousands of different types of radio tubes, even though they haven't been manufactured for many years:

http://www.vacuumtubes.net/

jc




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