Re: Surcharge for providing Internet routes?

["Matthew S. Crocker" <matthew () corp crocker com>]

We provide full tables to customers that ask, 99% of the time they don't know what they are asking for and don't really 
need it.  full tables doesn't cost anything more but we only do it for our 100+meg customers. I don't for example do 
BGP with T1 level customers.

-Matt

----- Original Message -----

> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
> To: "NANOG list" <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 5:46:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Surcharge for providing Internet routes?
>
> On May 1, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> > On 2010.05.01 16:43, ML wrote:
> > > Has anyone here heard of or do they themselves charge extra for
> > > providing a complete internet table to customers?
> >
> > ... I've never heard of it, but iow, I'd pay more if I could get my
> > upstreams to provide the full table...
> >
> > Is there a market? I doubt it.
>
> Every "upstream" I've dealt with in the US & western Europe provides a
> full table if you ask.  Kinda the point of being an "upstream".
>
> There are some countries where "Bee-Gee-Pee" is not understood, and
> they therefore do not speak it.
>
> If you buy transit from someone and they charge for setting up BGP and
> sending you a full table in the US, Canada, and most of Europe, I'd
> find another provider.  That one probably isn't clueful enough to
> provide good service.
>
> In other parts of the planet, well, they probably still aren't clueful
> enough. :)  But when the game is fixed, if it's the only game in town,
> you sometimes have to play anyway.
>
> -- 
> TTFN,
> patrick

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