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Re: Wireless Ethernet bridge


From: Ryan Wilkins <ryan () deadfrog net>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:03:04 -0600

Instead of the PTP600, you might try looking at the PTP800. Again, not 5.8 GHz but does up to 368 Mbps full duplex over the air interface, jumbo frames up to 9600 bytes, AES 128 or 256 bit encryption, 11, 18, 23, or 26 GHz depending on what regulatory agency you fall under. Will do fiber or copper handoff at gigabit speeds.

I also have two BridgeWave links installed. The older stuff (AR80- AES) won't do jumbo frames. The newer stuff (FlexPort-AES) will do jumbo frames to something like 9200 bytes. These links operate at 80 GHz. Both models have had issues but the support has been very good. Handoff is fiber on the older line and SFP (presumably fiber) on the newer line.

Neither are inexpensive. You're looking at about USD $32k or so for the BridgeWave radios per link. The PTP600 and 800 are about the same at USD $15k or so per link. Prices vary (wildly) with options.

Lab testing of the PTP600 yielded about 225 Mbps each way even though the advertised speed was closer to 150 Mbps each way. In the end, we ended up returning the PTP600 before it was installed, not because it was a substandard product, but rather because our landlord chose to make liberal use of the 5.8 GHz band for security cameras. I have no doubt that we would have closed the links at 5.8 GHz but it would have likely killed our landlord's camera network. Instead of causing problems, we chose to return the radios and go with the PTP800 which weren't available at the time we were investigating this radio solution.

Good luck on your search.

Ryan Wilkins

On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Scott Brown/Clack/ESD <SBrown () clackesd k12 or us > wrote:

The Dragonwave would be my first choice too, but they are not in the 5.8GHz
band.

The Motorola PTP-600 has a 2000 byte MTU, but doesn't do multimode handoff.

What radio to get will come down to what you are willing to give up -- if
you are willing to drop the 5.8Ghz band and go with 11Ghz then the
Dragonwave is for you -- the new Horizon Quantum is amazing (and pretty
inexpensive when I priced it out)

Bridgewave isn't bad either - you can get to 1.25Gbps with some fiber
handoff.


Scott

Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com> wrote on 03/10/2010 02:23:33 PM:

From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com>
To: Stefano Gridelli <sgridelli () gmail com>
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Date: 03/10/2010 02:23 PM
Subject: Re: Wireless Ethernet bridge

Check out DragonWave:

http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/

-Mike



On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Stefano Gridelli
<sgridelli () gmail com>wrote:

Hi All,

I need a wireless bridge solution that allows to pass jumbo frames over
a
distance of 3 miles, using the 5.8 GHz band. The original solution was
a
Proxim Tsunami GX 200, but unfortunately it doesn't go beyond an MTU of
1536
bytes: we need at least 1544 bytes, ideally between 4470 and 9212 bytes MTU. The handoff should be MM fiber, the desired throughput 200 Mbps.

Thanks,
Stefano





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