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Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers
From: Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon () cox net>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:32:54 -0500
On 6/9/2010 12:17, Joe Greco wrote:
What I don't want to see which you are advocating... I don't want to see the end users who do take responsibility, drive well designed vehicles with proper seat belts and safety equipment, stay in their lane, and do not cause accidents held liable for the actions of others. Why should we penalize those that have done no wrong simply because they happen to be a minority?I agree, on the other hand, what about those people who genuinely didn't do anything wrong, and their computer still got Pwned?Fiction. At the very least, if you connected a system to the network and it got Pwned, you were negligent in your behavior, if not malicious. Negligence is still wrong, even if not malice.So, just so we're clear here, I go to Best Buy, I buy a computer, I bring it home, plug it into my cablemodem, and am instantly Pwned by the non-updated Windows version on the drive plus the incessant cable modem scanning, resulting in a bot infection... therefore I am negligent? Do you actually think a judge would find that negligent, or is this just your own personal definition of negligence? Because I doubt that a judge, or even an ordinary person, could possibly consider it such.
One can argue (and I will) that there is indeed some culpability because the buyer bought the cheapest version of everything and connected it to a negligent provider's system. -- Somebody should have said: A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Freedom under a constitutional republic is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. Requiescas in pace o email Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Eppure si rinfresca ICBM Targeting Information: http://tinyurl.com/4sqczs http://tinyurl.com/7tp8ml
Current thread:
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers, (continued)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Jorge Amodio (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 08)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Alexander Harrowell (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Chris Adams (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Adrian Chadd (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Jorge Amodio (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Joe Greco (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Brielle Bruns (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Owen DeLong (Jun 09)
- Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber attackers Larry Sheldon (Jun 09)