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Re: IPv4 Exhaustion...
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:45:07 -0400
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:48:13 -0400, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
... Very Interesting Times for ISPs that deploy LSN and are subject to CALEA.
CALEA is not a time machine. When an order is received, the "collection agency" starts receiving traffic; nothing (or at most, very little) is known prior to the wiretap order. Put another way, you cannot be ordered to produce tapes of phone call that happened a month ago. (CALEA only says you must have the ability to monitor anyone; not that you must be monitoring everyone to have "stuff" available before being asked for it.)
With CALEA, you're innocent until there's a reason to think otherwise. With the RIAA/MPAA/et.al., we're all guilty, all the time, so everything should be monitored until they get around to suing, err, extorting us.
--Ricky
Current thread:
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion..., (continued)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Steven Bellovin (Jul 23)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Ricky Beam (Jul 23)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Leo Vegoda (Jul 23)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Owen DeLong (Jul 24)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Christopher Morrow (Jul 24)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 24)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Christopher Morrow (Jul 24)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Ricky Beam (Jul 26)
- RE: IPv4 Exhaustion... Deepak Jain (Jul 26)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Ricky Beam (Jul 26)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Steven Bellovin (Jul 23)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Ricky Beam (Jul 26)
- RE: IPv4 Exhaustion... Deepak Jain (Jul 26)
- Re: IPv4 Exhaustion... Rubens Kuhl (Jul 26)