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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style


From: Marshall Eubanks <tme () americafree tv>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:03:27 -0500


On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:


On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

Pardon my ignorance here but what does Comcast do for the NANOG community?
I know they attend many conferences and share their experiences with a lot
of us which is very much appreciated...

I'm sure the concern is that Comcast signed up to return NANOG (newNOG?) to philly.

They also were the sponsor for IETF-71 in Philly in 2008.

Regards
Marshall



I think they may be overly sensitive to some of the comments, just as if people were posting similar comments about 
my employer, I would likely be sensitive.  (Also there are a lot of people who post stuff but don't actually attend 
NANOG meetings.  There is this overlap but disjoint as well between the two in my experience.  Hope everyone is 
wearing their teflon pants).

Aside from the 'public comments', the leaked graphics (which I personally would believe are accurate, but the motives 
of the leakers not obvious), I don't directly have a role here.  I understand comcast has a lot of infrastructure and 
costs.  Likely more fiber than the incumbent telcos, and they are constrained by a variety of local business 
conditions from doing what may be a more optimal solution for themselves.

All that said, the whole issue of 'local content' is going to continue to rage on for years to come.  Getting the 
content closer to the end user is going to be a key to reducing costs for the long-tail providers to homes and 
businesses. Should it be incumbent on the CDNs to pay for colo at the headend?  That's a business decision that will 
entirely be driven by these ongoing disputes.

It surely feels like we are slowly going down the road of telco-style settlement based on call direction.  I've 
observed some trends that point at this happening when someone has a fortress they wish to defend, monetize or 
subsidize further.  Will it win out?  I'm not entirely sure.

      - Jared




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