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Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:00:32 -0700
On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:34 AM, David Conrad wrote:
Owen, On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:No, ARIN is not a regulator. Regulators have guns or access to people with guns to enforce the regulations that they enact. ARIN has no such power.I'm a little confused on the distinction you're making. Today, ARIN can remove whois data/reverse delegations as a way of enforcing 'regulations'. In the future, assuming RPKI is deployed, ARIN could, in theory, revoke the certification of a resource. While not a gun, these are means of coercion. Are you being literal when you say "gun" or figurative? Regards, -drc
Nothing forces anyone who wants to route a prefix to follow the IANA or ARIN RPKI. It is followed by agreement of the community, if it gets followed at all. There is no regulation that would prevent someone from setting up an alternate RPKI certificate authority and issuing certificates for resources alternative to the RIR system. Try doing that with Callsigns and using them on the air. The FCC will either fine you or have you locked up in relatively short order. ARIN cannot. It cannot become a criminal offense subject to incarceration for you to violate ARIN policy. It is a purely civil matter. Actual regulators have the force of law. ARIN does not. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space, (continued)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 07)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space N. Yaakov Ziskind (Apr 07)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Stephen Sprunk (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space todd glassey (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space David Conrad (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Stephen Sprunk (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Randy Bush (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Joel Jaeggli (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Bill Stewart (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Brandon Ross (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Brian Raaen (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Joel Jaeggli (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Brandon Ross (Apr 10)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Stephen Sprunk (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Curtis Maurand (Apr 09)
- RE: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Warren Bailey (Apr 09)