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Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta!
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:13:23 +0000
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 09:51:47AM -1000, David Conrad wrote:
BIll, On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:39 AM, bmanning () vacation karoshi com wrote:If you're not planning to announce a route into the DFZ, we have RFC1918 or IPv6's ULA, address pools that are 100% and completely free for your use.er... you misunderstand... there is no single "DFZ" anywhere...Pedantry alert.
yeah yeah yeah... you passed that class last century. why are you still here?
Addresses are not sellable property.Sure they are. I personally know of several cases where addresses have been sold. Right now, people have to go through a bunch of foo, creating dummy companies to hold the IP address assets, transferring the assets, selling the dummy companies, etc., but the end result is the same. Policy changes will make this somewhat less silly. Whether those policy changes will be sufficient to stop the creation of alternative "address title registries" remains to be seen.
you might want to let the ARIN GC know of the particulars here. selling dummy companies is not selling address space (technically).
Given a demand and a supply, markets don't traditionally need a whole lot of help to come into being.Ok... lets say there is a pent up supply ... and no good way to let those with demand know the supply exists. I'll consider acting as the "address Yenta" --- if folks have prefixes they are not using, and would like to let others know there is availablity, I'll be glad to be the "go between".Given current address space utilization efficiency, it isn't hard to find folks who have more address space than they are using. However, I suspect there are VCs who would be interested in discussing the idea...
bring them on. VC's are you listening?
Regards, -drc
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- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space bmanning (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 08)
- Behold - the Address-Yenta! bmanning (Apr 08)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! David Conrad (Apr 08)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! bmanning (Apr 08)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! John Curran (Apr 08)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! David Conrad (Apr 08)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! John Curran (Apr 08)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! William Allen Simpson (Apr 09)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! Randy Bush (Apr 09)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! John Curran (Apr 09)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! Randy Bush (Apr 09)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! Michael Dillon (Apr 09)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! David Conrad (Apr 09)
- Re: Behold - the Address-Yenta! John Curran (Apr 09)